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Second hand going backwards when setting.
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ABC
2003-10-21 11:13:20 UTC
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When setting the time backwards on some watches, the second hand may
go backwards also. Is this a sign of poor adjustment of the locking
angle of the pallet stone?

Should this be counted as a minus in valuing the watch?

ABC
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AndresMuro
2003-10-21 13:38:57 UTC
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Post by ABC
When setting the time backwards on some watches, the second hand may
go backwards also. Is this a sign of poor adjustment of the locking
angle of the pallet stone?
I have an invicta with a miyota auto mecahnism. It does the same thing.

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dAz
2003-10-21 14:37:29 UTC
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When setting the time backwards on some watches, the second hand may go
backwards also. Is this a sign of poor adjustment of the locking angle
of the pallet stone?
more likely the cannon pinion is a little bit too tight
ABC
2003-10-22 02:27:15 UTC
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Post by dAz
more likely the cannon pinion is a little bit too tight
But I thouhgt the escape wheel teeth and the pallet stone would not
allow backward movement--if properly adjusted.


ABC
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dAz
2003-10-22 04:48:15 UTC
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Post by ABC
Post by dAz
more likely the cannon pinion is a little bit too tight
But I thouhgt the escape wheel teeth and the pallet stone would not
allow backward movement--if properly adjusted.
the balance is still occilating, so its still unlocking the pallets while
the backwards force is being applied
Russell W. Barnes
2003-10-21 19:03:46 UTC
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Post by ABC
When setting the time backwards on some watches, the second hand may
go backwards also. Is this a sign of poor adjustment of the locking
angle of the pallet stone?
Should this be counted as a minus in valuing the watch?
My Seiko 5 (7S26) does this, which can be used to good effect for that
'spot-on' set. I get the impression that all Seiko 5s fitted with a 7S26 do
it. It doesn't seem to be detrimental.

I also have a 'West-End' watch ('Sowar') fitted with an ETA 17-jewel mov't
(can't remember which one right now) which does it - but only if the power
reserve is low.
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Steffen Kluge
2003-10-22 08:42:09 UTC
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Post by Russell W. Barnes
My Seiko 5 (7S26) does this, which can be used to good effect for that
'spot-on' set. I get the impression that all Seiko 5s fitted with a 7S26 do
it. It doesn't seem to be detrimental.
My Seiko 5 (7S36) does it, too, but only for 5 or so seconds
(unless I keep turning the minute and hour hands backward). I can
balance it on the crown to either have the second hand stop or go
backwards a bit, without the minute hand moving. Quite handy for
setting the time in the absence of hacking.

Cheers
Steffen.
Russ Lea
2003-10-25 18:51:10 UTC
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No. it's a sign of the cannon pinion being too tight.Russ Lea
Veet Jaroch
2003-10-27 02:42:52 UTC
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No, it is no escapement problem. In my opinion it is the cannon pinion which
is too tight. It could be corroded too. Vito
Post by ABC
When setting the time backwards on some watches, the second hand may
go backwards also. Is this a sign of poor adjustment of the locking
angle of the pallet stone?
Should this be counted as a minus in valuing the watch?
ABC
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