Obtaining correct time?

Post by DB
In the "old days" you could call "POP-CORN" and get the correct time.
That number is no longer used, at least out West where I am. What's
the best way (other than my computer) to get the exact time now-a-
days?
Thanks!

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the propagation range of the transmitter

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d530

2011-02-20 22:25:58 UTC

"d530" <***@polbox.com> wrote in message news:ijrtns$9ve$***@news.onet.pl...

and by phone call: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/ttds.cfm

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your "local" chemist

2011-02-21 16:57:12 UTC

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the propagation range of the transmitter
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Cool! Thanks, all!

Knot Important

2011-02-21 19:29:04 UTC

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the
propagation range of the transmitter

Our cable tv box displays the correct time and updates every night. Atomic wall
clocks will update via radio transmitter. It does require using a computer or
smart phone but if you type "correct time" in the address bar it will link to
the government time station and give you time correct to the second.

2011-02-21 19:52:14 UTC

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the
propagation range of the transmitter

I got at least 4 radio clocks at home, but I can't trust them all.

I used to work at a NASA site,' Timing man" Using a Cesium prime, we
used to listen to WWV to make sure it was on the right second. Loran
for long term stability, and if all else fails, somebody uses their
wrist watch.
Got to have backups tracking the astronauts back then.

The older system actually had a rotating linear clock driven by a
Marantz power
amplifier, driven from derived 5 mHz, driven by the Cesium standard.

If you had to learn reading off a digital display watch, from birth,
how
do you think you would view time ? I often wonder.

greg

2011-02-21 20:09:03 UTC

Post by G

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the
propagation range of the transmitter

I got at least 4 radio clocks at home, but I can't trust them all.
I used to work at a NASA site,' Timing man" Using a Cesium prime, we
used to listen to WWV to make sure it was on the right second. Loran
for long term stability, and if all else fails, somebody uses their
wrist watch.
Got to have backups tracking the astronauts back then.
The older system actually had a rotating linear clock driven by a
Marantz power
amplifier, driven from derived 5 mHz, driven by the Cesium standard.
If you had to learn reading off a digital display watch, from birth,
how
do you think you would view time ? I often wonder.
greg

Forgot to leave the time...
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/anim

Nate Nagel

2011-02-23 01:19:37 UTC

Post by Knot Important

IMHO radio controlled watch or clock, provided you are in the
propagation range of the transmitter

My cell phone is spot on with my laptop, which is set to sync to NIST.
Unfortunately, no seconds display on cell phone.

nate

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Fraser Johnston

2011-02-21 03:05:13 UTC

GPS.

Fraser

J.B. Wood

2011-02-22 13:01:34 UTC

Cell phone.

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d530

2011-02-22 15:05:42 UTC

Post by DB
That number is no longer used, at least out West where I am. What's
the best way (other than my computer) to get the exact time now-a-
days?
Thanks!

Cell phone.

But the question was about exact time.

Just checked my cell phone - 25 seconds fast.

J.B. Wood

2011-02-22 17:53:18 UTC

Post by DB
That number is no longer used, at least out West where I am. What's
the best way (other than my computer) to get the exact time now-a-
days?
Thanks!

Cell phone.

But the question was about exact time.
Just checked my cell phone - 25 seconds fast.

Hello, and referenced to what? Allow me to re-submit my response by
offering the USNO master clock announcement at 202-767-1401. That's the
master timekeeper for the U.S. armed forces. (Sorry I can't account for
any delays in the voice telephone network.) Sincerely,

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d530

2011-02-22 18:34:55 UTC

Post by d530
Just checked my cell phone - 25 seconds fast.

Hello, and referenced to what?

Hi, 25 seconds fast referenced to Polish Official Time Server which is maintained by Polish Beurreu of Weights and Measures. It really is extremely reliable.

BTW - may you please check your cell phone clock against reliable time standard, just for comparision between USA and Poland ?

Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her) opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?

For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

Sincerely

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dAz

2011-02-23 00:22:08 UTC

Post by d530
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her) opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

those are a bit useless here in Australia, no radio signal for them to use.

I just go by the computer that is synced to a NTTP server or the GPS unit.

dAz

Fraser Johnston

2011-02-24 02:45:33 UTC

Post by d530
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her)
opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

those are a bit useless here in Australia, no radio signal for them to use.
I just go by the computer that is synced to a NTTP server or the GPS unit.

I feel so ripped off when the Yanks talk about their radio controlled watches
and clocks. Even if we get one in Aus there is no way it is going to be
anywhere near Perth. : (

Fraser

Nate Nagel

2011-02-25 00:35:29 UTC

Post by d530
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her)
opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

those are a bit useless here in Australia, no radio signal for them to use.
I just go by the computer that is synced to a NTTP server or the GPS unit.

I feel so ripped off when the Yanks talk about their radio controlled watches
and clocks. Even if we get one in Aus there is no way it is going to be
anywhere near Perth. : (
Fraser

Well, I'm about 16-1700 miles from Fort Collins, CO, depending on which
route you take - and my radio controlled clock seems to reset itself
just fine, although it only works when it's above ground (odd, that <G>)

nate

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dAz

2011-02-27 07:59:09 UTC

Post by Nate Nagel

Post by d530
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her)
opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

those are a bit useless here in Australia, no radio signal for them to use.
I just go by the computer that is synced to a NTTP server or the GPS unit.

I feel so ripped off when the Yanks talk about their radio controlled watches
and clocks. Even if we get one in Aus there is no way it is going to be
anywhere near Perth. : (
Fraser

read the above again, in AUSTRALIA we do not have a radio signal for
these clocks and watches so they do not have signal to sync to and are
no better and are probably worst than a normal quartz watch or clock.

dAz

Nate Nagel

2011-02-27 13:31:06 UTC

Post by Nate Nagel

Post by d530
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her)
opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.

those are a bit useless here in Australia, no radio signal for them to use.
I just go by the computer that is synced to aNTTP server or the GPS
unit.

I feel so ripped off when the Yanks talk about their radio controlled watches
and clocks. Even if we get one in Aus there is no way it is going to be
anywhere near Perth. : (
Fraser

My mistake, I just ASSumed that you did, and thought that Fraser was
stating that he thought he might be too far from the xmitter for it to
work. Sure enough, it appears that this approach is only taken in the
USA, Europe, China, and Japan... (with one station broadcasting in
Moscow as wel)

GPS should still work though...

nate

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dAz

2011-02-27 23:29:42 UTC

Post by Nate Nagel
My mistake, I just ASSumed that you did, and thought that Fraser was
stating that he thought he might be too far from the xmitter for it to
work. Sure enough, it appears that this approach is only taken in the
USA, Europe, China, and Japan... (with one station broadcasting in
Moscow as wel)

no prob, would be nice to be able to use these clocks, I have no idea
what is involved in setting up a radio signal, but would have to be done
by a private company I think, waiting for the government to do it....
well we will still be waiting ;)

Post by Nate Nagel
GPS should still work though...

does indeed.

Fraser Johnston

2011-03-01 05:12:11 UTC

Post by Nate Nagel
GPS should still work though...

does indeed.

Aussie government is too busy pissing money away on Colins Class subs.

Fraser

Frank Adam

2011-03-01 06:45:01 UTC

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:12:11 +0800, Fraser Johnston

Post by Nate Nagel
GPS should still work though...

does indeed.

Aussie government is too busy pissing money away on Colins Class subs.

Indeed ! The navy will soon be carbon taxed and won't be able to
afford to patrol our seas anyway. ;-)

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Fraser Johnston

2011-03-01 07:05:17 UTC

Post by Frank Adam
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:12:11 +0800, Fraser Johnston

Post by Nate Nagel
GPS should still work though...

does indeed.

Aussie government is too busy pissing money away on Colins Class subs.

Indeed ! The navy will soon be carbon taxed and won't be able to
afford to patrol our seas anyway. ;-)

It's not like anyone is going to invade us any time soon.

Fraser

Frank Adam

2011-03-02 01:06:31 UTC

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:05:17 +0800, Fraser Johnston

Post by Frank Adam
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:12:11 +0800, Fraser Johnston

Post by Nate Nagel
GPS should still work though...

does indeed.

Aussie government is too busy pissing money away on Colins Class subs.

Indeed ! The navy will soon be carbon taxed and won't be able to
afford to patrol our seas anyway. ;-)

It's not like anyone is going to invade us any time soon.

Indeed. And i'm sure they will give us time to build up if that was to
happen...

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Regards, Frank

J.B. Wood

2011-03-02 11:34:14 UTC

Post by Fraser Johnston
It's not like anyone is going to invade us any time soon.
Fraser

Hello, and even if that did happen I'm certain the U.S. would never let
our best friend down under go it alone (except for that scenario in a
well-known Nevil Shute novel). Sincerely,

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c***@webtv.net

2011-03-07 02:08:21 UTC

I have a Motorola ATRIX phone, and ATRIX laptop dock.It is about two
minutes behind the right time.The right time is not that important to
me.
Tomorrow morning I am taking it back to the AT&T store (not because of
the incorrect time) for a refund.I want something else.I don't tote
anyway.
cuhulin

DonB

2011-02-23 15:35:55 UTC

Post by d530
Just checked my cell phone - 25 seconds fast.

Hello, and referenced to what?

Hi, 25 seconds fast referenced to Polish Official Time Server which is maintained by Polish Beurreu of Weights and Measures. It really is extremely reliable.
BTW - may you please check your cell phone clock against reliable time standard, just for comparision between USA and Poland ?
Maybe it's time for DB who started this thread to express his (or her) opinion, which solution is most convenient for him ?
For me definitely radio controlled clocks and watches.
Sincerely
--
your "local" chemist

I find both NIST and USNO clocks perfect for my needs. I set my new G-
Shock to the USNO the other day and it has been spot on ever since.
Strangely, I set my computer at the same time, but it was a couple
seconds off this morning.

J.B. Wood

2011-02-24 12:20:01 UTC

Post by d530
Just checked my cell phone - 25 seconds fast.

Hello, and referenced to what?

Hi, 25 seconds fast referenced to Polish Official Time Server which is maintained by Polish Beurreu of Weights and Measures. It really is extremely reliable.

Hello, and I'm a bit puzzled by this time difference. I've no
familiarity with time standards maintained by Poland. In the U.S. I
believe cell phone providers have their time references slaved to GPS
which in turn is slaved to the USNO master clock. This master clock
time is derived from a number of cesium beam and hydrogen maser clocks.

More detailed info here:
http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/time/gps/usno-gps-time-transfer

The time display on ny Verizon cell phone doesn't show seconds but the
minute advance point appears to be in sync with the USNO master clock.
Sincerely,

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d530

2011-02-24 21:08:46 UTC

Post by J.B. Wood
Hello, and I'm a bit puzzled by this time difference. I've no
familiarity with time standards maintained by Poland. In the U.S. I
believe cell phone providers have their time references slaved to GPS
which in turn is slaved to the USNO master clock. This master clock
time is derived from a number of cesium beam and hydrogen maser clocks.
http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/time/gps/usno-gps-time-transfer
The time display on ny Verizon cell phone doesn't show seconds but the
minute advance point appears to be in sync with the USNO master clock.
Sincerely,
--

Hi, checked again today, still 25 seconds fast referenced to Central Europe Standard Time.

In fact I have no idea why cell phone providers don't send accurate synchro signal through cell network in Poland.
I guess it's not complicated. Synchronizing their main network servers with official standard time should also be as easy as synchronizing PC with NTP time servers.

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Nate Nagel

2011-02-25 00:41:58 UTC