Stems came out of Ebel watches

[Flycaster]

I've got the Discovery and my wife has the Classic Wave. Upon resetting
the time of EDST, both stems came out of the watches. Her's is under
warranty, mine isn't. Can the stems simply be screwed back in, or
should the watches be sent for repair? My wife's stem did screw back in
and she insist on wearing it. I say she shouldn't. What do you guys
say? Also, which would be wiser for me: to send my watch to Ebel for
repair, or to give it to a reliable Ebel dealer for him to repair? Thanks,

Adam

[John S.]

Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.

Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.

BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

[Flycaster]

Post by John S.
Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.
Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.
BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

Thanks. This is my second Discovery in 15 years and this is the first
time something like this has happened. Anyway, I spoke with Ebel, and
they said that I could simply put the crown/stem back in myself, and
still maintain water resistance. Well, I put it back in and all seems
to be functioning well. As for maintaining water resistance, we'll soon
find out.

[Jack Denver]

I would still have it looked at. The set screw that holds the stem in
probably needs to be tightened - a five minute job for a watchmaker.
Otherwise the stem will continue to fall out and at some inopportune time
you will lose it altogether.

Post by Flycaster

Post by John S.
Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.
Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.
BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

Thanks. This is my second Discovery in 15 years and this is the first
time something like this has happened. Anyway, I spoke with Ebel, and
they said that I could simply put the crown/stem back in myself, and still
maintain water resistance. Well, I put it back in and all seems to be
functioning well. As for maintaining water resistance, we'll soon find
out.
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[Flycaster]

Post by Jack Denver
I would still have it looked at. The set screw that holds the stem in
probably needs to be tightened - a five minute job for a watchmaker.
Otherwise the stem will continue to fall out and at some inopportune time
you will lose it altogether.

Post by Flycaster

Post by John S.
Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.
Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.
BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

Thanks. This is my second Discovery in 15 years and this is the first
time something like this has happened. Anyway, I spoke with Ebel, and
they said that I could simply put the crown/stem back in myself, and still
maintain water resistance. Well, I put it back in and all seems to be
functioning well. As for maintaining water resistance, we'll soon find
out.
--
To email, erase "forgetit"

Was in the water today, and thankfully, no signs of water in the watch.
Although I would like to have the watch looked at, it will take 15 days
if I send it to Ebel, and I am always concerned about going to a
watchmaker for repair. Perhaps, one of you guys could give me the
courage to go to a watch repair person from an upscale jewelry store. I
would imagine that they should know what they are doing, or do they?

[Jack Denver]

Honestly, this is as simple an adjustment as is possible - anyone who works
on mechanical watches at all and who has a pressure tester machine (ask to
see it) so they can confirm water tightness when they reseal the watch
would be able to do this - you are literally talking about turning 1 screw
1/4 turn.

Read the thread from a few weeks ago, written by a very experienced
watchmaker with the title "There is no such thing as a waterproof watch" and
you'll understand why you are tempting fate each time you wear your watch in
the water. What is the nature of your activity that it requires you to wear
your expensive watch in the water and why can't you be wearing a $30 Casio
or a $100 Seiko or Invicta Diver when you are doing this instead?

Post by Flycaster

Post by Jack Denver
I would still have it looked at. The set screw that holds the stem in
probably needs to be tightened - a five minute job for a watchmaker.
Otherwise the stem will continue to fall out and at some inopportune time
you will lose it altogether.

Post by Flycaster

Post by John S.
Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.
Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.
BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

Thanks. This is my second Discovery in 15 years and this is the first
time something like this has happened. Anyway, I spoke with Ebel, and
they said that I could simply put the crown/stem back in myself, and
still maintain water resistance. Well, I put it back in and all seems to
be functioning well. As for maintaining water resistance, we'll soon
find out.
--
To email, erase "forgetit"

Was in the water today, and thankfully, no signs of water in the watch.
Although I would like to have the watch looked at, it will take 15 days if
I send it to Ebel, and I am always concerned about going to a watchmaker
for repair. Perhaps, one of you guys could give me the courage to go to a
watch repair person from an upscale jewelry store. I would imagine that
they should know what they are doing, or do they?
--
To email, erase "forgetit"

[Frank Adam]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:19:24 -0400, "Jack Denver"
<***@netscape.net> wrote:

Aren't those quartz watches ? It's rare to see a modern quartz with a
screw type set lever, and i'd guess that the Ebel would be using an
ETA or similar ?
As for the pressure test, yes, it's a simple thing to do. Most bigger
chainstores will have a waterless pressure tester, which even the
store mascot could use.
Close door, flick switch, wait for pretty light to light up.
If red, stop, if green, go.

Post by Jack Denver
Honestly, this is as simple an adjustment as is possible - anyone who works
on mechanical watches at all and who has a pressure tester machine (ask to
see it) so they can confirm water tightness when they reseal the watch
would be able to do this - you are literally talking about turning 1 screw
1/4 turn.
Read the thread from a few weeks ago, written by a very experienced
watchmaker with the title "There is no such thing as a waterproof watch" and
you'll understand why you are tempting fate each time you wear your watch in
the water. What is the nature of your activity that it requires you to wear
your expensive watch in the water and why can't you be wearing a $30 Casio
or a $100 Seiko or Invicta Diver when you are doing this instead?

Post by Flycaster

Post by Jack Denver
I would still have it looked at. The set screw that holds the stem in
probably needs to be tightened - a five minute job for a watchmaker.
Otherwise the stem will continue to fall out and at some inopportune time
you will lose it altogether.

Post by Flycaster

Post by John S.
Send it in for repair either to Ebel or to an established jewelery
store that repairs watches. (Not a strap/band/battery shop in the
mall.) Those are nice watches, so it is better to have it done right.
Also, ask the jeweler to show you how to pull out the crown for time
setting. They are not large on Ebel and it is easy to apply too much
pressure.
BTW, my wife has enjoyed her Ebel 1911 with a gold turned dial for
about 5 years now. Ebel makes very attractive watches.

Thanks. This is my second Discovery in 15 years and this is the first
time something like this has happened. Anyway, I spoke with Ebel, and
they said that I could simply put the crown/stem back in myself, and
still maintain water resistance. Well, I put it back in and all seems to
be functioning well. As for maintaining water resistance, we'll soon
find out.
--
To email, erase "forgetit"

Was in the water today, and thankfully, no signs of water in the watch.
Although I would like to have the watch looked at, it will take 15 days if
I send it to Ebel, and I am always concerned about going to a watchmaker
for repair. Perhaps, one of you guys could give me the courage to go to a
watch repair person from an upscale jewelry store. I would imagine that
they should know what they are doing, or do they?
--
To email, erase "forgetit"

[dAz]

Post by Frank Adam
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:19:24 -0400, "Jack Denver"
Aren't those quartz watches ? It's rare to see a modern quartz with a
screw type set lever, and i'd guess that the Ebel would be using an
ETA or similar ?

eta movements I think, eta haven't used screwed down set levers for ages
on either the mech or quartz.

brute force in pulling the stem out may have damaged the slot in the
stem, so the if the person is pulling as well as turning the crown its
more likely the setlever will ride up and allow the stem to pull free.

[Frank Adam]

Post by dAz

Post by Frank Adam
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:19:24 -0400, "Jack Denver"
Aren't those quartz watches ? It's rare to see a modern quartz with a
screw type set lever, and i'd guess that the Ebel would be using an
ETA or similar ?

eta movements I think, eta haven't used screwed down set levers for ages
on either the mech or quartz.
brute force in pulling the stem out may have damaged the slot in the
stem, so the if the person is pulling as well as turning the crown its
more likely the setlever will ride up and allow the stem to pull free.

Thanks for the help, Daz. ;-p

But yeah, that is what i was hinting towards. I'd say since both are
screw-down crowns the possibility of tugging on them a bit too hard is
always there because of their bulkiness. Not to mention when one
unscrews one, but leaves it hanging on the last thread, then pulling
on the crown will give the set lever a right old jolt when the crown
slips off the thread.
Worn set lever or stem i guess. I wouldn't do the former without a
full service though.