Ronda 763E

How good a movement?

dAz

2010-11-02 02:51:49 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.

basically it is $10 movement, you put a battery in and it runs, it stops
working, you chuck the movement and fit a new one, don't bother about
asking how good a timekeeper it is irrelevant, its a quartz......

dAz

d530

2010-11-02 16:59:41 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.

BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

dAz

2010-11-02 23:35:58 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

campania

2010-11-02 23:42:40 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the
movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

So that is EOL?

shiva das

2010-11-03 01:18:10 UTC

Post by campania

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the
movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

So that is EOL?

EOL stands for "End Of Life". Movements which have the EOL feature will
indicate when it is time to change the battery before it dies. For
example, the Breitling B-1 will flash "E O L" in the upper LCD screen
when it is time to change the battery.

But as dAz said, most people wait for the battery to die and then take
it to a battery changer or watchmaker. He has a point -- three or four
years after you last looked at the manual, your watch starts flashing a
cryptic message...

Frank Adam

2010-11-03 03:45:06 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the
movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

So that is EOL?

EOL stands for "End Of Life". Movements which have the EOL feature will
indicate when it is time to change the battery before it dies. For
example, the Breitling B-1 will flash "E O L" in the upper LCD screen
when it is time to change the battery.
But as dAz said, most people wait for the battery to die and then take
it to a battery changer or watchmaker. He has a point -- three or four
years after you last looked at the manual, your watch starts flashing a
cryptic message...

True, but i've seen enough leaked batteries to say that it is a good
idea. You can only try and help ignorance, the rest is up to the
owners..

--
Regards, Frank

dAz

2010-11-03 05:33:05 UTC

Post by jim
How good a movement?

well it is a quartz, so how good it is doesn't really matter, just worry
about the case, dial and band, and how the watch looks, water resistance
etc, forget about whats inside, no one cares.
(...)

Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the
movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

So that is EOL?

EOL stands for "End Of Life". Movements which have the EOL feature will
indicate when it is time to change the battery before it dies. For
example, the Breitling B-1 will flash "E O L" in the upper LCD screen
when it is time to change the battery.
But as dAz said, most people wait for the battery to die and then take
it to a battery changer or watchmaker. He has a point -- three or four
years after you last looked at the manual, your watch starts flashing a
cryptic message...

True, but i've seen enough leaked batteries to say that it is a good
idea. You can only try and help ignorance, the rest is up to the
owners..

yep, and the trouble is people have more than one watch, one goes flat,
they chuck it in a drawer and put the other one on, only when they run
out of watches to wear then they bring them in.

Leviatan

2010-11-03 11:42:39 UTC

Post by Frank Adam
True, but i've seen enough leaked batteries to say that it is a good
idea. You can only try and help ignorance, the rest is up to the
owners..

As my "machine design" teacher used to say, "you can not make machines
fully idiot-prof; they are too imaginative"

--
Un saludo,
Alberto

d530

2010-11-03 15:22:55 UTC

Post by d530
Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

They should be at least surprized with strange behaviour of second hand. :-)) when battery ends it's life

Invalid

2010-11-03 17:02:04 UTC

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Post by d530
Well dAz, all that's true but implementation of EOL feature into the
movement makes it "better" than the movement without EOL.
BTW - Ronda 763 movement lacks EOL.

and most people have no idea or care what that means, their watch stops,
they bring it in for a battery.

They should be at least surprized with strange behaviour of second
hand. :-)) when battery ends it's life

It takes less than a second to check the time on a watch to the nearest
couple of minutes - try it. So I doubt most people look at a watch long
enough to notice the second hand move - particularly if it doesn't move
for two seconds at a time like the EOL feature on my Longines.

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Invalid

d530

2010-11-03 19:12:37 UTC

Post by Invalid
It takes less than a second to check the time on a watch to the nearest
couple of minutes - try it. So I doubt most people look at a watch long
enough to notice the second hand move - particularly if it doesn't move
for two seconds at a time like the EOL feature on my Longines.

You are right. Most people overlook 2 (or 4 for some movements) second jumps of second hand. Most people probably don't even read instruction manuals or technical specifications.

Only WISes check accuracy of their watches, they even check whether second hand hits (matches) minute indices on the dial. :-)

your "local" chemist

Frank Adam

2010-11-03 19:39:08 UTC

You are right. Most people overlook 2 (or 4 for some movements) second
jumps of second hand.
Most people probably don't even read instruction manuals or technical specifications.

Oi ! Just leave me out of this. ;-)

--
Regards, Frank

dAz

2010-11-04 03:13:22 UTC

You are right. Most people overlook 2 (or 4 for some movements) second jumps of second hand. Most people probably don't even read instruction manuals or technical specifications.

yep

Post by d530
Only WISes check accuracy of their watches, they even check whether second hand hits (matches) minute indices on the dial. :-)

and the problem there is that modern movements are quite sloppy,
specially when they put ladies sized movement in gents watches, I try
and line up the seconds hand with the marks, and if I can get it close
enough, that is fine, the slop in the train is such if you hold the
watch with the 12 up and watch for a while the seconds hand will be
slightly forward the marks on the 3 side and slightly behind the marks
on the 9 side.

in the old days there was generally a whole page in the service manual
in how to line up the seconds hand down to slightly bending the hand
left or right to make it line up, or on one particular Omega model there
was a special eccentric adjustment screw to make sure the hand lined up
with the minute markers.

just get a spring drive, then you don't need to worry about the hand
lining up ;)

dAz

Frank Adam

2010-11-04 22:33:40 UTC

You are right. Most people overlook 2 (or 4 for some movements) second jumps of second hand. Most people probably don't even read instruction manuals or technical specifications.

yep

Post by d530
Only WISes check accuracy of their watches, they even check whether second hand hits (matches) minute indices on the dial. :-)

and the problem there is that modern movements are quite sloppy,
specially when they put ladies sized movement in gents watches, I try
and line up the seconds hand with the marks, and if I can get it close
enough, that is fine, the slop in the train is such if you hold the
watch with the 12 up and watch for a while the seconds hand will be
slightly forward the marks on the 3 side and slightly behind the marks
on the 9 side.
in the old days there was generally a whole page in the service manual
in how to line up the seconds hand down to slightly bending the hand
left or right to make it line up, or on one particular Omega model there
was a special eccentric adjustment screw to make sure the hand lined up
with the minute markers.
just get a spring drive, then you don't need to worry about the hand
lining up ;)

And don't forget to check your car wheels and place the hubcaps with
the logo in the same position all around. It's much prettier that way.

An old mechanic's joke to wind up apprentices. :-)

--
Regards, Frank

dAz

2010-11-04 23:08:38 UTC

Post by Frank Adam

Post by dAz
in the old days there was generally a whole page in the service manual
in how to line up the seconds hand down to slightly bending the hand
left or right to make it line up, or on one particular Omega model there
was a special eccentric adjustment screw to make sure the hand lined up
with the minute markers.
just get a spring drive, then you don't need to worry about the hand
lining up ;)

And don't forget to check your car wheels and place the hubcaps with
the logo in the same position all around. It's much prettier that way.
An old mechanic's joke to wind up apprentices. :-)

I have actually seen people do that at the car shows ;) and doesn't
Rolls Royce have self levelling hubcaps to make sure the RR is the right
way up

shiva das

2010-11-05 00:40:00 UTC

Post by Frank Adam

And don't forget to check your car wheels and place the hubcaps with
the logo in the same position all around. It's much prettier that way.
An old mechanic's joke to wind up apprentices. :-)

I have actually seen people do that at the car shows ;) and doesn't
Rolls Royce have self levelling hubcaps to make sure the RR is the right
way up

You're thinking of the freely-rotating rims favored by Cadillac Escalade
owners...

Frank Adam

2010-11-05 04:01:23 UTC

Post by shiva das

Post by Frank Adam

And don't forget to check your car wheels and place the hubcaps with
the logo in the same position all around. It's much prettier that way.
An old mechanic's joke to wind up apprentices. :-)

I have actually seen people do that at the car shows ;) and doesn't
Rolls Royce have self levelling hubcaps to make sure the RR is the right
way up

You're thinking of the freely-rotating rims favored by Cadillac Escalade
owners...

Oh no, that would be that silly, useless and blingy show off stuff
whereas the Rolls is... Ummm, never mind, carry on. :)

--
Regards, Frank

dAz

2010-11-05 06:32:44 UTC

Post by shiva das